I'll tell you what went wrong: asking a billionaire his opinion on anything. After an entire hour of enduring the inanities, the only enlightenment I reached was how wonderful it would be to boil all billionaires into Soylent Green and fed them to the pigs in some farm in Arkansas.
Consider three of his gems:
1. "If the system hasn't been changed yet, that's because it's working the way we want it."
I'm paraphrasing. But the privileged idiodicy of this is obvious to all of us who who aren't billionaires. When is that last time any of us managed to simply change anything we didn't like?
2. "Why don't we have any new cities?"
Actually, you can add to this the equally asinine "It's illegal to build new roads."
We don't build new cities because we're fucking overrun with cities. Where do you think we need a new city? East Bumfuck, Nevada? And where do you want to build a new road? Let's just let pass the fatuous pronouncement that it's "illegal." It's isn't exactly illegal, is it? More like it's unnecessary.
3. "In 1993-1994, nobody besides us thought the Internet was going to be a thing."
This is the kind of self-aggrandizing I have to laugh at. Everybody in my world (science) had been using email since 1983. I knew students in Texas excitedly developing HTML in 1990. I left academia and went into envornmental protection, and I still remember everyone's excitement the first we saw a web browser in 1993. It was electrifying.
So, sorry; this is just wrong. There was enthusiasm for the Internet in lots of places at that point.
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I can summarize the guest's problem as his apparent belief that picking up a book by some economist means that a guy like him, with no relevant expertise, can leapfrog his way into being smarter than thousands of dedicated professionals on all kinds of non-economic issues (the highway system, the EPA, etc). This, of course, is exactly the problem Sam rails against when he complains about arm-chair climatologists and home-schooled epidemologists.
Here's a striking example: Andreessen thinks the city of Los Angeles was founded by some 1920's newspaper cabal trying to make a buck, because he read it in a book. Doesn't that strike you as, well, absurd? What about all the other factors leading to the population influx into the LA basin? The film industry? What about the port? Did he even *look* at Wikipedia? Because they have a completely different narrative.
You can see his propensity for oversimplification again when he summarizes the entire Nixon administration into two domestic policy plans: the EPA and the Energy Independence project. Somehow, all of Energy Independence becomes equivalent to nuclear power. And somehow, never mind the gigantic leaps forward in the health of the country and its citizens that the EPA brought about; the guest only sees poor over-regulated corporations who can no longer profitably flood the watersheds with DDT and build their nuclear waste dumps. So the result of his cherry-picked, pea-brained interpretation of the world is this: the legacy of the Nixon administration is that we end up with all of the stagnating regulations but none of the limitless free energy benefits.
I call triple bullshit on this. There's more to the EPA than beating up on poor little corporations. And there is more to energy independence than going full nuclear.
Speaking of nuclear, Sam brings up the obvious (well, to anyone except a billionaire with his head up his ass) point that, hey, maybe there were a few, shall we say, "setbacks" in nuclear power since the 1970s? Like Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, and Fukushima? But our guest dodges that one. He pretends that the bad PR is from the evil managerial government that we have allowed to fester within our capitol. Missing the obvious point that the oil companies would have lost trillions--TRILLIONS--if the US had switched to nuclear. But they're off limits to suspect. Apparently, billionaires can do no wrong; it's the evil regulators who killed Big Nuke.
Oh, wait, I know how he overlooked Big Oil. Because that didn't fit with his libertarian narrative.
Not that his supposedly superior engineering brain performs with any clear advantage over that of a lawyer when Sam asks him about banning people on Twitter who are actively spreading harmful information. Sam asks about the harm to society from the hydroxychlorizone conspiracies or Sandy Hook victim doxing, and this model of probity says it's Orwellian to even talk about suppressing free speech. As if speech has to be completely unfettered or else we're evil. But then he accuses Sam of hypocrisy for only going after a-holes on the right... which all of Sam's audience must get a big laugh at. And, when Sam pushes back on that, Mr. Free Speech suddenly decides that he can't actually give any opinion about Twitter, because he doesn't want to get sued.
My, how quickly this noble right to free speech cedes to intellectual property laws. And the fear of law suits. And I suppose there are other valid exceptions, like if I tried to give you his social security number. Or incite violence against him. Or, for that matter, yell "fire" in a theater.
He spews a ton of other nonsense in this interview, like how there's "chaos and carnage in the streets" because we'd elected too many "pro-crime DAs." Which, sorry for disabusing everyone, but there actually isn't. Isn't chaos and carnage in the streets. And there isn't a single "pro-crime" DA. I know it can seem that way if you are a doomscrolling billionaire in Palo Alto. But Andreessen of all people should know that you can't believe everything you read on the Internet.
As a venture capitalist, his prescription to "save" society is that old libertarian chestnut of "disrupt the institutions." But, considering how myopicly arrogant is the giver of this advice, it's hard to have a lot of confidence in it.
Not to mention hypocritical: how many of these libertarians actually ever choose to move to a country with less regulations--i.e. less rule of law? And, since the answer is "none", why do you think that might be?